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. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of tonight's debate in denver is the man who knows from game change, emmy darling, "time" magazine and msnbc senior political analyst whose publication is out with an issue today, who's telling the truth, the fact wars. mark halperin, i've been trying to find
. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already...
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the left has a paul ryan video. it's a whole lot of fun. i'm sure you'll love it. >>> first here's bill karins. he's got a check on the forecast. bill. >> morning, joe. maybe you noticed yourself down in d.c., too, the fog, a big issue this morning up and down the big cities from new york city all the way down through philadelphia, baltimore and d.c. give yourself some extra time. i'm sure we're going to have airport delays as the airports get going this morning. some people are saying it's the worst fog they've seen in a long time throughout this region. it will lift by 9:00 or 10:00 a.m. so the heart of it is right now. we will see a few showers during the day but not like yesterday where it really was a rainout in a few spots. temperatures will be very warm and humid. we are going to see a chance of showers in new york city as we go through thursday and then again over the weekend. it's over the weekend that the temperatures drop on the east coast including washington, d.c., and boston with highs in the 50s and 60s. right now all that co
the left has a paul ryan video. it's a whole lot of fun. i'm sure you'll love it. >>> first here's bill karins. he's got a check on the forecast. bill. >> morning, joe. maybe you noticed yourself down in d.c., too, the fog, a big issue this morning up and down the big cities from new york city all the way down through philadelphia, baltimore and d.c. give yourself some extra time. i'm sure we're going to have airport delays as the airports get going this morning. some people are...
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don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings hollow. >> alex, richard, great to have you with us on "the ed show." >>> coming up, the obama campaign released a new ad hammering mitt romney for outsourcing jobs to a chinese company with sweat shop conditions during his time at bain capital. sherrod brown will be joining me on that and other issues. >>> and billionaires are getting antsy about the possibility of president obama's reelection. and they are starting to whine big time. stay tuned. you're watching "the ed show." >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for wat
don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings...
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including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you gut our military, have you to remember the president is proposing these devastating defense cuts. so, we don't agree with that. that's the point we're trying to make. >> who did you vote for? >> i voted for a bipartisan budget agreement. >> folks, this is the tea party effect. just look at mr. romney. he said he was severely conservative. he vowed to repeal obama care. and then there's this -- >> i have experience in health care reform. now and then the president says i'm the grandfather of obama care. i don't think he meant that as a compliment, but i'll take it. this was during my primary. we thought it might not be helpful. >> this goes to the root of the gop brand problem. they came in and assaulted programs that people like. and now they're trying to run like the wind from it. i'd like to call this move, the walk back. joining me now is democratic stra
including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you gut our military, have you to remember the president is proposing these devastating defense cuts. so, we don't agree with that. that's the point we're trying to make. >> who did you vote for? >> i voted for a bipartisan budget agreement. >> folks, this is the tea party effect. just look at mr. romney. he said he was...
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ryan. joining us from washington, julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and ken vogel, chief investigative reporter for polpolitico. paul ryan has conceded that mitt romney's 47% comments were inarticulate. they seem to acknowledge that the 47%, largely the elderly, working poor, veterans, but now ryan sounds as if he agrees with mitt. which is it? >> that's right. you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their debt to society with blood literally. it's made up of mostly working people, most of that 47% are working americans, working middle class, working poor. >> hard working who earn less than $30,000 a year. >> or even $40,000 or $50,000 and many of those -- many of that 47% is made up of seniors. you know, this network is going to have a new poll later today that's going to show the race tightening and the national numbers but not in the battleground states i think. one of the big reasons for that, one of the bi
ryan. joining us from washington, julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and ken vogel, chief investigative reporter for polpolitico. paul ryan has conceded that mitt romney's 47% comments were inarticulate. they seem to acknowledge that the 47%, largely the elderly, working poor, veterans, but now ryan sounds as if he agrees with mitt. which is it? >> that's right. you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their...
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. >> or he can do what congressman paul ryan did in the interview with fox news said, i don't have time to finish this out. good grief, people will get bored. i hear people say play up your natural weapons you have, and we know the president has his national weapons and so does mitt romney. what do you see as a high point or something effective for both of them. what are the president's natural weapons going in? >> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's weapons? >> romney's weapon is still that executive card. bain and all, he has to say i've gotten it done in business. i know the liabilities attached to the profile, tamron, but that's the bed he chose and he has to h
. >> or he can do what congressman paul ryan did in the interview with fox news said, i don't have time to finish this out. good grief, people will get bored. i hear people say play up your natural weapons you have, and we know the president has his national weapons and so does mitt romney. what do you see as a high point or something effective for both of them. what are the president's natural weapons going in? >> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying...
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paul ryan said it would take too long to explain their budget plan. the problem isn't the time and explanation. it's the math that's involved to make the statements that mitt romney and paul ryan have said line up to being anything close to the truth. and i think that governor romney will likely whether he likes it or not have an opportunity to try to explain how you pay for a $5 trillion tax cut for the wealthy, and not have it end up as every study has shown raising taxes on middle-class families. >> they've come up wait new study today where they say i think with what you could call dynamic scoring, that tax reform will produce economic growth if you want to prebutt that. >> well, you know, andrea, you and i both have been in washington a long time. and when the math doesn't add up, somebody comes up with these unique economic theories that somehow despite the fact that the numbers don't equal up, trust us, because everything will work out just fine. that's exactly what's gotten us into this mess. that's why when barack obama walked in to the oval
paul ryan said it would take too long to explain their budget plan. the problem isn't the time and explanation. it's the math that's involved to make the statements that mitt romney and paul ryan have said line up to being anything close to the truth. and i think that governor romney will likely whether he likes it or not have an opportunity to try to explain how you pay for a $5 trillion tax cut for the wealthy, and not have it end up as every study has shown raising taxes on middle-class...
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paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this campaign, i think will get louder. >> nate, you're a man of numbers. a prognosticator, what is your bet? george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favori
paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this...
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i want to play paul ryan. he did a live interview with bloomberg this morning. here is what he had to say about what he expects to see from president obama. >> president is not telling the truth about what we are proposing. he can't run his record so he has to distort mitt romney's record. he has to divide the country to distract the country to win by default. >> here is what you hear over and over again, distort the record. governor romney saying in a prior interview with "meet the press," the president wouldn't be truthful. what is your response to the romney campaign seeing mitt romney, seeing paul ryan predicting the president to be untruthful? >> that is an interesting talking point coming from candidates whose convention was based on a tripod of lies, talking about a welfare reform attack president clinton called false in the architect of welfare reform called false. blaming the president for the closure of a gm plant that was slated for closure during the previous administration. here are the facts. the $5 trillion tax plan that mitt romney and paul ryan
i want to play paul ryan. he did a live interview with bloomberg this morning. here is what he had to say about what he expects to see from president obama. >> president is not telling the truth about what we are proposing. he can't run his record so he has to distort mitt romney's record. he has to divide the country to distract the country to win by default. >> here is what you hear over and over again, distort the record. governor romney saying in a prior interview with...
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paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to pass new laws in maine, iowa and new hampshire. >>> k the white house glowed a lovely color of pink last night. it's estimated more than 200,000 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer in the u.s. just this year. >>> let's talk about another color, gray. presidents go into office full of vitality and a few years later they often look more than a few years older and grayer. it's not just president obama. research shows that stress does not affect when or how fast your hair turns gray. what does? it's my must-read and up on our facebook page at facebook.com/jansingco. ll come . delicious and whole
paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to...
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paul ryan kicks off a bus tour of the buckeye state. >> i was teaching the kids the song on the way over here. >> we screw that up. of course, he's in iowa. not ohio. in an interview, romney was pressed for specifics on his tax plan. after ryan said on fox news on sunday the math would take too long to explain. >> you could say everybody is going to get up to a $70,000 deduction and can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction or others. and you can fill that bucket if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. or you could do it by the same method that boll simpson did it. but that's the sort of thing you do with congress. >> so that's the most detail we have heard romney talk about this idea of different buckets and a cap on deductions. but still it's been at nearly every stop in the the last two weeks. romney has had to explain the 47% remark. don't be surprised if we hear a version of this answer when it comes up wednesday night. >> if you could go back to that fundraiser, would you have said it differently? >> it's not p
paul ryan kicks off a bus tour of the buckeye state. >> i was teaching the kids the song on the way over here. >> we screw that up. of course, he's in iowa. not ohio. in an interview, romney was pressed for specifics on his tax plan. after ryan said on fox news on sunday the math would take too long to explain. >> you could say everybody is going to get up to a $70,000 deduction and can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction or others. and you can fill that...
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therest obama's plan, there's romney's sort of plan and ryan's plan. let's take a look at this and the next ten years. so the ten years in front of us and what each proposed. what's interesting is that president obama and congressman ryan have almost the exact same proposal for the next ten years, save $1 trillion from medicare, not by cutting benefits or raising costs to elderly, but reducing payments to hospitals and other kind of providers. interestingly those two are in the same place on the next two years. romney for whatever set of reasons says he doesn't want to do anything in the next ten years, which means that $1 trillion that his vice presidential running mate would save he does not want to save. he's in a different place on the next ten years. so let's go to the period after that. what's the long-term plan that each of these guys has for cost containment. again, very interestingly, president obama congressman ryan want to achieve exactly the same level of medicare spending over the definite future. they want to increase by gdp plus 1.5%. th
therest obama's plan, there's romney's sort of plan and ryan's plan. let's take a look at this and the next ten years. so the ten years in front of us and what each proposed. what's interesting is that president obama and congressman ryan have almost the exact same proposal for the next ten years, save $1 trillion from medicare, not by cutting benefits or raising costs to elderly, but reducing payments to hospitals and other kind of providers. interestingly those two are in the same place on...
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. >> paul ryan was asked about the tax cuts for the millionaires proposed by romney and ryan's budget plans. he was a guest on fox news sunday with chris wallace and the vice presidential candidate made some missteps of his own. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm just talking about -- the cut in tax rates. >> it's lower, all americans tax rates. it's revenue neutral. >> it's not unless you take away the deductions. we're going to get to that. the first half. lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. >> the master of the power point was having a hard time making a point. let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat
. >> paul ryan was asked about the tax cuts for the millionaires proposed by romney and ryan's budget plans. he was a guest on fox news sunday with chris wallace and the vice presidential candidate made some missteps of his own. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm just talking about -- the cut in tax rates. >> it's lower, all americans tax rates. it's revenue neutral. >> it's not unless you take away the deductions. we're going to get...
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yesterday paul ryan was grilled about it on, of all places, fox news. let's watch. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral.t talkit to -- >> the cut in tax rates will lower all americans' tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> this is not the first time romney was challenged, or ryan, on the vagueness of the proposal. back in 1994 romney talked about a plan to tackle health care up in massachusetts. actually nationwide. but never explained what the cost would be, the cost of the program. his opponent in the race back then was ted kennedy memorably challenging him on that debate. let's watch how it's done. here is where you challenge a guy to come clean, especially when he can't do it. let's watch. >> they ought to have an opportunity to know. what is the cost of your program? >> i don't have a cost of my program. >> you don't have a cost. >>
yesterday paul ryan was grilled about it on, of all places, fox news. let's watch. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral.t talkit to -- >> the cut in tax rates will lower all americans' tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> this is...
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i've got news for congressman ryan. america is neither in decline and it's never been a good bet to bet against the american people. they have never let this country down. >> all right, joe biden seems to know exactly how to use that 47% comment to the greatest effect. >> big ups to joe biden for rocking the polo shirt. i can't think of the last time someone on a ticket has made such a bold choice. look at the contrast here between joe biden who's setting the issues on the table and paul ryan who frankly doesn't look very gracious when you're asked about missteps on the ticket, if you want to do anything, and i think this is communications and politics 101, if you want to do anything talk about your own missteps. you're the number 2 guy. you're not there to remind people about how your boss made a big error that wasn't just style but was also substance. >> paul ryan was also asked why the romney/ryan team is trailing in the polls. let's listen to his response to that. >> it kind of goes without saying that there is defi
i've got news for congressman ryan. america is neither in decline and it's never been a good bet to bet against the american people. they have never let this country down. >> all right, joe biden seems to know exactly how to use that 47% comment to the greatest effect. >> big ups to joe biden for rocking the polo shirt. i can't think of the last time someone on a ticket has made such a bold choice. look at the contrast here between joe biden who's setting the issues on the table and...
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take me too long to go through all the math. >> this is not the first time romney was challenged or ryan on the vagueness of the proposal. back in 1994 romney talked about a plan to tackle health care up in massachusetts. actually nationwide. but never explain what had cost would be, the cost of the program. his opponent in the race back then was ted kennedy memorably challenging him on that debate. let's watch ou it's done. here is where you are challenge a guy to come clean, especially when he can't do it. let's watch. >> they ought to have an opportunity to know. what is the kotion of your program? >> i don't have a cost of my program. >> you don't have a cost. >> i'm sorry, i don't have the -- >> that's interesting. >> i don't have the congressional -- >> what will be the cost in terms of the tax incentives that you provide? what will be the impact of that on the budget? >> well, i do not know the specific number -- >> you don't know the costs. >> i think it's a wonderful idea to take it through piece by piece and -- >> that's what you have to do as a legislature. that's exactly what
take me too long to go through all the math. >> this is not the first time romney was challenged or ryan on the vagueness of the proposal. back in 1994 romney talked about a plan to tackle health care up in massachusetts. actually nationwide. but never explain what had cost would be, the cost of the program. his opponent in the race back then was ted kennedy memorably challenging him on that debate. let's watch ou it's done. here is where you are challenge a guy to come clean, especially...
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chris christie or congressman ryan? >> well, if my head is twice as big as everybody on the panel does that mean i'm twice as smart in that's the question. >> you have to take that up with them. >> i think that they're both right in a way. i don't think one singular event will testimony the outcome unless either barack obama or mitt romney says there's no soviet domination of eastern europe. i do think one singular event can be a catalyst for an eventual outcome and begin a chain of events that we look back and say that's when the eventual outcome that we saw, eventually began to show itself. i think mitt romney needs this to be that catalyst. >> okay. are you just trying to be right here? when you say they're both right it makes me think you're trying to hedge a bet here. one person said that there is not a make or break moment or they don't expect and that was paul ryan. chris christie said the next day, thursday, will be romney's time to shine because we will all be talking about how he basically hit it out of the pa
chris christie or congressman ryan? >> well, if my head is twice as big as everybody on the panel does that mean i'm twice as smart in that's the question. >> you have to take that up with them. >> i think that they're both right in a way. i don't think one singular event will testimony the outcome unless either barack obama or mitt romney says there's no soviet domination of eastern europe. i do think one singular event can be a catalyst for an eventual outcome and begin a...
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this has been a big 180 for the gop, ryan. santorum is saying that the entire gop needs to get behind akin. roy blount, who initially called for akin to step aside is saying voters will overlook akin's comments and vote for him. the "the huffington post" publication, has an interesting piece this morning where akin is responding to a question about voting against the lilly ledbetter act and saying it's all part of free enterprise and it's about freedom not paying women as much as men. >> that was the argument that was made against the civil rights act too, it's your business, you can do whatever you want with it. but i don't think it's that surprising that some republicans are coming back behind akin here. parties are generally speaking amoral. their job is to get themselves a majority in the senate or the house. whatever they need to do they're going to do to get there. now, it looked for a while like they were going to be able to push him off the ballot. so they all piled on. and they all had this, you know, spas. of more re
this has been a big 180 for the gop, ryan. santorum is saying that the entire gop needs to get behind akin. roy blount, who initially called for akin to step aside is saying voters will overlook akin's comments and vote for him. the "the huffington post" publication, has an interesting piece this morning where akin is responding to a question about voting against the lilly ledbetter act and saying it's all part of free enterprise and it's about freedom not paying women as much as men....
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but also this sense that the austerity measures that the romney/ryan campaign are suggesting just are not flying with the american people. i got to say, i still think george w. bush gives the president some cover on this. if you start talking about susan rice having misled the people on benghazi. isn't it easy to point out the weapons of mass destruction argument? there's already a president who was re-elected in the context of actively -- active deception towards the american people. >> i think this is a bigger deal for susan rice if she wants to be secretary of state than barack obama being re-elected. >> you think susan rice is going to be secretary of state. i thought it was kerry. interesting. >> both those names are in the hat. >> senator kerry has given a lot -- a bit of cover to susan rice this week suggesting that in fact he believes that she handled it appropriately. >> i will contend this race isn't over yet. i hope they keep picking cabinet members. i'll give you some of our names in a little while. >> i went straight to second term there. sorry about that imt when is a de
but also this sense that the austerity measures that the romney/ryan campaign are suggesting just are not flying with the american people. i got to say, i still think george w. bush gives the president some cover on this. if you start talking about susan rice having misled the people on benghazi. isn't it easy to point out the weapons of mass destruction argument? there's already a president who was re-elected in the context of actively -- active deception towards the american people. >>...
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paul ryan made a state to ohio tonight. accepting a gift of a rifle. he donated the group to a silent auction. joe biden spent the day in florida. he blamed the bush administration for the country's high deficit saying they put two wars on the credit card and gave tax cuts to the well think. tens of thousands hit the streets in spain. and former new york times publisher arthur suls berger. he ran the paper for more than three decades. he was 86 years old. back to "lock up." yçysxçao >>> for many of the inmates arriving at the north carolina correctional institution for women, the really hard time is the day they arrive. they are forced to contemplate a new life without freedom. and as you're about to see, making that adjustment is never easy, for first-timers or repeat offenders. on this rainy morning, several women arrive to begin serving their time. >> oh, man. this is ridiculous. >> first stop, the reception unit where the inmates are processed into the system. >> now i'm nervous. i've never been in a prison before. i did have a brother who died o
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>> paul ryan. paul ryan, he -- you know, he hasn't really changed his debate at all. he's not helping in wisconsin. >> okay. ladies, thanks so much. susan, margie, molly, appreciate it. see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern. but stay with us, craig melvin is in the house. he's up next. i'm alex witt. have a great day. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics, put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? the spiked heels are working. wait! [ garth ] great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ cheers and applause ] with a vial and syringe. me, explaining what i was doing at breakfast. and me discovering novolog mix 70/30 flexpen. flexpen is pre-filled with your pre-mix insulin. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no vials, syringe
>> paul ryan. paul ryan, he -- you know, he hasn't really changed his debate at all. he's not helping in wisconsin. >> okay. ladies, thanks so much. susan, margie, molly, appreciate it. see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern. but stay with us, craig melvin is in the house. he's up next. i'm alex witt. have a great day. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day!...
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that was after his running mate, paul ryan, also of wisconsin, used the monday night football debacle as a convenient political metaphor. >> did you watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs. you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it is time to get out. >>> all of the pressure and not necessarily from politicians helped bring about a deal between the nfl and the referee's union late wednesday night. the real refs got a standing ovation before thursday night's browns/ravens game in baltimore. here is what makes that scene hilarious. ask any sports fan, player or coach, the least popular man or woman on the field is the one holding the wlislhistle. people hate referees. that is partly as a function. despite the striped uniforms, they are meant to be invisible. we only notice them when they mess up or as it seems when they are gone and not there doing their jobs as professionals. allow me a metaphor of my own. to me, this is part of the labor image we all need to see in america as a who
that was after his running mate, paul ryan, also of wisconsin, used the monday night football debacle as a convenient political metaphor. >> did you watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs. you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it is time to get out. >>> all of the pressure and not necessarily from politicians helped bring about a deal between the nfl and the referee's union...
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ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the entitlement state. you have to see what they say behind closed doors or read conservative blogs. we know what the conservative apparatus in the republican party thinks about the entitlement state. they want to say we're going to be more extravagant to you seniors. they made the mistake of picking a fight on an issue that the democrats have reputational capital built up over time. it's not sustainable. if democrats went out and convinced them that they were the party that would give tax cuts to the rich, it would not be possible. it's not credib
ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the entitlement state. you...
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quote, romney/ryan doing more to fight the spread of lyme disease. this is first posted today by mother johns. here's another page of the flyer. what can a president do about lyme disease? really now? is mitt romney running for president because of tick-borne illness? really? or is somebody else on the campaign food chain making the decisions about what to campaign on? because it is when the freelancing happens, when people start getting desperate and taking matters into their own hands, that then maybe you get a presidential campaign that's trying to be about tick-borne diseases related to deer. maybe that will work in northern virginia? and sometimes it's your buddy, the other mogul with the yacht singing your yacht parking praises. because who among us has not had this challenge. then sometimes it's exactly what you think it's going to be. >> y'all sound like y'all are senior citizens, right? yeah, we don't want -- you don't want obama. you really don't want obama, because he'll get rid of your medicare. you might as well say good-bye to it. yeah,
quote, romney/ryan doing more to fight the spread of lyme disease. this is first posted today by mother johns. here's another page of the flyer. what can a president do about lyme disease? really now? is mitt romney running for president because of tick-borne illness? really? or is somebody else on the campaign food chain making the decisions about what to campaign on? because it is when the freelancing happens, when people start getting desperate and taking matters into their own hands, that...
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this is apparently a real romney campaign flyer, identify romney-ryan, doing more to fight the spread of lyme disease. this is first posted today by mother jones. another page of the flier "what can a president do about lyme disease"? is mitt romney running for president because of tick-borne illness or is somebody else down the campaign food chain making decisions now? it's when people are desperate and take matter into their own hands, then you get a campaign about tick-born diseases related to deer? or the yacht mogul helping park the yacht? then sometimes it's exactly what you think it's going to be. >> y'all sound like y'all are senior citizens, right? yeah. we don't want -- you don't want obama. you really don't want obama. he'll get rid of your medicare. you might as well say good-bye to it. yeah, and i don't know if you've done any research on obama or not, but he is a muslim. he is -- got a socialistic view on the, you know, the economy, the government, the whole nine yards. um, if he had his way, we would be a socialistic country. okay, really do. pay attention to fox news.
this is apparently a real romney campaign flyer, identify romney-ryan, doing more to fight the spread of lyme disease. this is first posted today by mother jones. another page of the flier "what can a president do about lyme disease"? is mitt romney running for president because of tick-borne illness or is somebody else down the campaign food chain making decisions now? it's when people are desperate and take matter into their own hands, then you get a campaign about tick-born...
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this is apparent lay real romney campaign flyer, identify romney-ryan, doing more to fight the spread of lyme disease. this is first posted today by mother jones. another page of the flier "what can a president do about lyme disease"? is mitt romney running for president because of tick-borne illness or is somebody else down the campaign food chain making decisions now? it's when people are desperate and take matter into their own hands, then you get a campaign about tick-born diseases related to deer? or the yacht mogul helping park the yacht? >> y'all sound like y'all are senior citizens, right? yeah. we don't want -- you don't want baum. you really don't want obama. he'll get rid of your medicare. you might as well say good-bye to it. yeah, and i don't know if you've done any research on obama or not, but he is a muslim. he is -- got a socialistic view on the, you know, the economy, the government, the whole nine yards. um, if he had his way, we would be a socialistic country. okay, really do. pay attention to fox news. >> a volunteer for the clay county republican party in florida
this is apparent lay real romney campaign flyer, identify romney-ryan, doing more to fight the spread of lyme disease. this is first posted today by mother jones. another page of the flier "what can a president do about lyme disease"? is mitt romney running for president because of tick-borne illness or is somebody else down the campaign food chain making decisions now? it's when people are desperate and take matter into their own hands, then you get a campaign about tick-born...
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i'm not sure he knows that paul ryan voted for that sequester or that at this point wars are the way you make new veterans if he's threatening new wars in iran and syria the way he's been so threatening on those issues. we need this debate. we have problems as a country, not getting the debate from the campaign but maybe next week we will start to. >> and on nbc and msnbc, we've got lester holt and richard engel and teams of correspondents also in the field, so we are going to be having that debate come hell or high water. >> do you feel like those issues can be brought into the campaign with less than 40 days, is there no chance that we're going to get there? >> i think that we have to force the issue, we in the media as well, we have to talk about things other than the polls and horse race and what's on twitter, beyond sort of the social media context -- >> the moment to moment stuff that people are fighting about and get to the policy. >> we also have two senate races that have gone seriously off the tracks. let's talk about massachusetts and missouri. >> massachusetts scott brown
i'm not sure he knows that paul ryan voted for that sequester or that at this point wars are the way you make new veterans if he's threatening new wars in iran and syria the way he's been so threatening on those issues. we need this debate. we have problems as a country, not getting the debate from the campaign but maybe next week we will start to. >> and on nbc and msnbc, we've got lester holt and richard engel and teams of correspondents also in the field, so we are going to be having...
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they really don't like paul ryan. so you look at all the recent polls, you have four of them. you have reuters, gallup, bloomberg and fox show the president leading. which doesn't mitt romney embrace these polls and acknowledge them? say, this is how it is right now. we're going to change them? >> i think internally they probably are doing a lot of that and trying to figure out how they can shift the narrative, but i think that article is exactly right. yes, mitt romney has been a poor candidate. yes, his comments about the 47% have been truly devastating to this race. i think his problems go way back. they do go to a self-delusion the gop has about the president. that he's awful and a toaster oven could beat him in an election. it's not true. the american people like the president. mitt romney was forced to move so far to the right in the gop primary it's hard to come back to a sensible, mainstream view and his embrace of paul ryan on the ticket just made that that much harder. >> if you're in the wilderness for years and you're not winning and we have 8% unemployment and we
they really don't like paul ryan. so you look at all the recent polls, you have four of them. you have reuters, gallup, bloomberg and fox show the president leading. which doesn't mitt romney embrace these polls and acknowledge them? say, this is how it is right now. we're going to change them? >> i think internally they probably are doing a lot of that and trying to figure out how they can shift the narrative, but i think that article is exactly right. yes, mitt romney has been a poor...
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, governor romney said he's running on his budget and not congressman ryan's. let me play that. >> i have my budget plan, as you know, that i put out. that's the budget plan we're going to run on. >> you heard mitt romney there, so is it fair to assume he will follow paul ryan's blueprint? >> his senior adviser ed gillespie said if his budget reached his desk, he would have signed it. reverend norquist said the real leadership in the republican party is not located the in the oval office but in congress, and what republicans really need is sort of a human equivalent of up an auto pen. somebody with enough fingers to sign legislation. if you look at this legislation, it's not just a return to the days of george w. bush. on everything from environmental regulations to abortion to gun rights, it's worse than bush. so some of his centrist supporters they make this argument. this is a guy who seems to believe this is a base election, which is one of the reasons that he chose paul ryan. that he has a history of not only be a mode rate and they saw that when he was go
, governor romney said he's running on his budget and not congressman ryan's. let me play that. >> i have my budget plan, as you know, that i put out. that's the budget plan we're going to run on. >> you heard mitt romney there, so is it fair to assume he will follow paul ryan's blueprint? >> his senior adviser ed gillespie said if his budget reached his desk, he would have signed it. reverend norquist said the real leadership in the republican party is not located the in the...
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>> energy. >> sort of where they go romney, ryan, romney, ryan, instead of ryan ryan ryan. >> people want to vote for the person they think will win. republicans don't get on their feet as much as democrats do, but some events are so stayed. >> you went to some sarah palin events four years ago. >> many of them. >> people got on their feet for sarah palin and for other people they believe are true blue conservatives. they're just not excited about mitt romney. we have a lot of new polls out today, josh. i was saying a week ago, there's 45 days, time to turn it around, four debates, there's pictures today of of people lining up in ohio to go vote. >> in iowa. already opened up. >> in iowa opening next week and ohio tuesday. >> virginia is already voting. >> virginia is already voting. guess what, you know, you can tell i am an old guy, ran a decade or two ago because you have the rules wrong. thinking back in terms of the 1980 campaign, that's not the reality. look at people lined up to vote. mitt romney has to turn this around now. >> the problem is that adds more -- we have come to
>> energy. >> sort of where they go romney, ryan, romney, ryan, instead of ryan ryan ryan. >> people want to vote for the person they think will win. republicans don't get on their feet as much as democrats do, but some events are so stayed. >> you went to some sarah palin events four years ago. >> many of them. >> people got on their feet for sarah palin and for other people they believe are true blue conservatives. they're just not excited about mitt...
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you have seen recently with this campaign and particularly in picking paul ryan. peel are very concerned about the future of their medicare and social security being privatized. look at the attack on women's rights. we had an attorney general's naktz commonwealth that essentially closes women's health clinics throughout virginia. those are extreme views, and you'll have reported on what the republican general assembly did in richmond this last year with ultrasound legislation, that's extreme and has people alarmed in virginia. that's why both tim kaine and president obama are enjoying support. >> chairman rand, thanks sop much for your insights on my home state, the commonwealth of virginia. >> welcome. come on back. we'd love to have you in 40 days. it's very exciting. there's a lot going on here. >> i'm not missing the negative ads. that's the one thing. chairman rand, thanks so much. >> romney's focus in virginia seeming to be twofold. military and coal. the state is home to a million servicemen and vets and their families. as for coal, he ran this ad ahead of
you have seen recently with this campaign and particularly in picking paul ryan. peel are very concerned about the future of their medicare and social security being privatized. look at the attack on women's rights. we had an attorney general's naktz commonwealth that essentially closes women's health clinics throughout virginia. those are extreme views, and you'll have reported on what the republican general assembly did in richmond this last year with ultrasound legislation, that's extreme...
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to health care we don't revamp the entire social security system to meet inside restrains that paul ryan thinks works but doesn't work for america. this is real questions on voters' mines and that's changed the dynamic of the election and we're seeing great candidates on our side with that message who are going to win in november. >> and in massachusetts, republican scott brown has apologized for what some of his aides did in appearing on this video where they were mocking elizabeth warren for her native-american heritage. that is apology sufficient and should this be an issue in this campaign? >> certainly it's up to the people of massachusetts to determine that. they have watched this race, they have seen scott brown tell people to take a look at elizabeth warren to determine her heritage, which is frankly offensive to me, people in massachusetts will make that determination. but i will say this. again, we have a race where elizabeth warren is fighting for the values that american families care about, making sure we all have an opportunity that our kids all have access to education, th
to health care we don't revamp the entire social security system to meet inside restrains that paul ryan thinks works but doesn't work for america. this is real questions on voters' mines and that's changed the dynamic of the election and we're seeing great candidates on our side with that message who are going to win in november. >> and in massachusetts, republican scott brown has apologized for what some of his aides did in appearing on this video where they were mocking elizabeth...
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governments do it in education, infrastructure, and r&d and romney/ryan plan cuts that by 75%. i don't know how you stay competitive if you spend less than 5% of federal resources on educating your workforce and building roads and bridges and doing that r&d. india, china, even europe is doing more than that. i think that kind of business plan approach is something that resonates in virginia. >> do you believe one of the other reasons the president has held up strong in virginia the whole time is federal workers, the economy, what specifically? is it because there are a lot of federal workers who are mad at republicans that want to cut or is it that the economy thanks to the federal government and defense contractors, unemployment rate is basically at full employment? >> well, virginia is doing better than the rest of the country. that's been a trend we've had for a decade plus. i do think because there's a lot of federal workers, because there are a lot of folks who work in the defense industry, this constant effort of shutting down the government that we have seen, approach fr
governments do it in education, infrastructure, and r&d and romney/ryan plan cuts that by 75%. i don't know how you stay competitive if you spend less than 5% of federal resources on educating your workforce and building roads and bridges and doing that r&d. india, china, even europe is doing more than that. i think that kind of business plan approach is something that resonates in virginia. >> do you believe one of the other reasons the president has held up strong in virginia...
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it's not really clear where he stands vis-a-vis ryan and ryan's budget. he promised us his own budget, but it has yet to appear. and so there is no real coherence to the message now that he's finding himself out of the primary season. >> still about 40 days till election day. time to turn around. steve, we'll look at your charts a little later. >>> coming up next, we'll bring in chuck todd, joe klein of "time" magazine and paul simon, how about that. kerry washington also going to join us. >>> and up next, jim vandehei with a look at the "politico playbook" and steve ratner with reasons that may explain the surge in the polls. >>> first bill karins with a look at the forecast. >> unfortunately some rainy areas, new york city one of them. we saw that with our times square shot. another area, thunderstorms pushing into portions of jersey. if you're leaving the house in philadelphia, the rain has begun. i-95 from philly to wilmington, probably one of the worst highway drives. eventually these will work from southern jersey from long branch towards atlantic c
it's not really clear where he stands vis-a-vis ryan and ryan's budget. he promised us his own budget, but it has yet to appear. and so there is no real coherence to the message now that he's finding himself out of the primary season. >> still about 40 days till election day. time to turn around. steve, we'll look at your charts a little later. >>> coming up next, we'll bring in chuck todd, joe klein of "time" magazine and paul simon, how about that. kerry washington...
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barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men saying that the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap that exists between the green bay packers and politics is still this moment. >> there are 30 teams, but only one packer organization, and that is the greatest football organization ever in america's history. there are only 187 days before training camp. and 360 days before we go back to miami! whereas the packers are america's real team, and we'll always be winners in the hearts and minds of the people of wisconsin, therefore i, tommy thompson, governor of the great state of wisconsin, do hereby proclaim january 27th, 1998, all over wisconsin, green bay packer day in honor of all of you, the fans! congratulations. thank you. >> tommy
barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men saying that the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap that exists between the green bay...
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i mean, paul ryan was right in the center of it. and now you're going to make him vice president of the united states, in charge of opposing infrastructure building. it makes no sense. the country cannot work if we don't invest both in people's education and in the infrastructure, and romney has no record of it, and paul ryan has a record of being against it. so i don't see how anybody's going to vote for them. >> on the stage, the theatrics of it all and the semantics of it as well, mike rowe is up there talking about the very people that mitt romney was dissing behind closed doors at that fund-raiser. he can't say it about them, but maybe this guy can. maybe i'll hand the microphone to this guy, this guy named mike rowe, who wears a workman's hat and a sweatshirt and goes around and has pretty good visibility, maybe he can get up there and say that i really do care about these folks. i find this of somewhat of a desperate move, the choreography of all of this. >> well, it's really based, ed, on the idea that the american people ar
i mean, paul ryan was right in the center of it. and now you're going to make him vice president of the united states, in charge of opposing infrastructure building. it makes no sense. the country cannot work if we don't invest both in people's education and in the infrastructure, and romney has no record of it, and paul ryan has a record of being against it. so i don't see how anybody's going to vote for them. >> on the stage, the theatrics of it all and the semantics of it as well, mike...
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paul ryan, isn't that something. wait a second. romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a possible dezooe knit of awkwardness yesterday as governor romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasn't always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950's sitcom star he sounded like a lost member of the romney tribe. with ryan drawing crowds the alpha dog appears to be getting tired of reminding people who is the campaign pate tree yashg. >> i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president, not him. >> ryan doesn't always seem to get the message. in days he's been reportedly acting like a rebellious teenager going back to his old ways and giving power point presentations at campaign rallies. >> we can't keep spending money we don't have. today our federal government for every dollar it spends it borrows 36 cents on that dollar. by the time my three kids are around my age, at the top there, our debt is going to
paul ryan, isn't that something. wait a second. romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a possible dezooe knit of awkwardness yesterday as governor romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasn't always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950's sitcom star he sounded like a lost member of the romney tribe. with ryan drawing...
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paul ryan. isn't that something? wait a second. romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. thank you. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring um newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god, pray for us sinners now and in thy hour of peace? >> no. it's other. >> i just did bad having gone to catholic high school. it's in the end of "godfather 2." >> how do you fix it? >> you don't fix it. he's a great man. he's a great father, great husband, great businessman, great turnaround guy. if i had a business anywhere in the world, e'd have him run it. he's just -- he's a horrible politician. he's one of the worst. he's great guy. i just want to say, he's a great, gate, guy, but, man, ed rendell, you know it. great guy. >> mitt romney when i knew him as governor of massachusetts was smart, competent, confident. >> so you think he could be worked with if he had the right team around him? >> well, i think they tried to make him into something he's not, and when that
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paul ryan also in ohio this week. >> here's the killer. president obama just the other day, he said on tv that i can't change washington from the inside. why do we send presidents to the white house in the first place? isn't that why we send presidents to washington, to change washington? >> this is apparently the new thing that president obama said it's hard to change washington from the inside. mitt romney is on record saying the exact same thing on the presidential campaign trail, but apparently they want it to be a scandal. which of course is ridiculous. but i highlight that speech for the reason other than the hypocrisy of the dumb change in washington line. and the reason i highlight it is because paul ryan new stump speech is now tentatively branching out into foreign policy. kind of. >> i mean, turn on the tv and it remind you of 1979 tehran, but they're burning our flags in capitals all around the world. they're storming our embassies. we've lost four of our diplomats and what is the signal that our government is sending the world
paul ryan also in ohio this week. >> here's the killer. president obama just the other day, he said on tv that i can't change washington from the inside. why do we send presidents to the white house in the first place? isn't that why we send presidents to washington, to change washington? >> this is apparently the new thing that president obama said it's hard to change washington from the inside. mitt romney is on record saying the exact same thing on the presidential campaign...
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wait a second, romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. thank you. wait a second, romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. thank you. >> don't forget, i'm on top of the ticket, it's me, mitt. guy's got an ego bigger than asia. tonight in our survey, who do you trust to protect student's best interests? 98% of you said president obama. 2% said mitt romney. >>> richard murdoch might be defeated in his senate race. stay tuned. >>> another big indication of why republicans should be worried. the indiana senate race is in play for a seat held by senator richard lugar since 1977. the democratic candidate is joe donly. he leads by three points in the internal poll conducted by global strategy group. now mower dock defeated richard lugar in a primary and made clear he had no interest in negotiating with democrats or anybody. >> to me the highlight of politics is inflict my opinion in front of a camera to win them over to my point of view. >> i have a mind set that it ought of consist of democrats coming to the republican point of view. >> they are
wait a second, romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. thank you. wait a second, romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. thank you. >> don't forget, i'm on top of the ticket, it's me, mitt. guy's got an ego bigger than asia. tonight in our survey, who do you trust to protect student's best interests? 98% of you said president obama. 2% said mitt romney. >>> richard murdoch might be defeated in his senate race. stay tuned. >>> another big indication of why republicans...
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paul ryan, also a wisconsinite and a packers fan, agreed. >> i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs, and you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. i half think that these refs work part time for the obama administration and the budget office. they see a debt crisis and they just ignore and pretend it didn't even happen. they're trying to pick the winners and losers, and they don't even do that very well. >> what a cheap exploitation of something people really care about. anyway, why are the anti-union guys like walker and ryan trying to get the unionized -- see the irony, refs back on the field? what bad speech writing. by the way, he was reading it off the lectern. he couldn't even remember it. >>> next, the story of chris christie and a reporter. the first one of the season anyway. at an event yesterday one reporter pressed christie on his state's full foreclosure laws, its policies. you know what came up next? >> do you have a follow-up question? >> who are you, by the way? >>
paul ryan, also a wisconsinite and a packers fan, agreed. >> i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs, and you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. i half think that these refs work part time for the obama administration and the budget office. they see a debt crisis and they just ignore and pretend it didn't even happen. they're trying to pick the winners and losers, and they don't even do that very...